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Zay Dante on the Drake vs. Kendrick beef, music fandom, and going full-time on TikTok

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Zay Dante listens to a lot of music. Like, a lot of music.

And you can tell when you watch his content. It's why his TikTok videos about the Drake and Kendrick beef went over so well, and why his skits about popular songs hit so hard: He has the context to make the content sing (pun intended). It's that kind of dedication to the craft that has led to him amassing an audience of over 2.5 million followers across YouTube, TikTok, and Instagram.

And Dante doesn't just talk about music — he's creating it, too. He released his debut EP, TBTV, on March 27 to mostly positive reviews. At VidCon 2025, we sat down with Dante, who was a featured creator, to talk about making his own music, where he gets the inspiration for his videos, and how he amassed nearly two million followers on TikTok.

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Credit: Mashable Composite: Zooey Liao/ Image Credit: Getty Images/ TikTok/ Spotify/ Zay Dante's Instagram

How has social media affected your transition into the music industry?

It is a direct one-to-one. One day, I decided I wanted to do a parody song. I had been doing parody songs since about 2020, but never seriously. [After recording my first parody song], it did really well. And I was like, "Oh, there's no reason why I shouldn't keep doing this."

After I dropped the EP, I was really interested in people's thoughts, and I was so pleasantly surprised by how much people enjoyed it. I was really happy because I definitely know that parody music has a stigma to it, that it's not supposed to be taken seriously. And there were songs on my EP where I was like, "Nah, there's not really a joke to this. I just wanted to rap. I just wanted to make a song." But I understood that people who were coming from the videos would come into it with the same mindset that they were watching the videos, which was, "This is a joke." But I was pretty happy that people got something from it at all. It really made me very excited about releasing something else, too. I was honestly just hype that anyone cared at all.

How much time do you spend listening to music? Are you listening on Spotify?

Last year, I had 50,000 or 60,000 minutes listened to on Spotify, but I split my time between Spotify and Apple Music. I really did like it. I did go back to Spotify, but I did really like [Apple Music]. I missed having the Wrapped. Everybody was posting their Wrapped, and I wanted to see how left out I felt. Can I stand it? Am I going to be able to stick with Apple Music? And I could not stand [feeling left out].

When you made those videos about Kendrick and Drake, were you afraid?

Definitely. I was so scared. I tried to be so fair. I was making videos about what was happening. I never wanted Kendrick to do what he ended up doing. And I never wanted Drake to lose that badly. But he did. So, what else am I supposed to do?

Have you covered anything that's surprised you this year?

Pusha T's new album rollout has been amazing. I always expected to listen to it, but I never expected it to get to a point where I would be able to make content about it. It's been pretty cool. I'm really excited for that album.

Zay Dante at VidCon 2025

Zay Dante at VidCon 2025.
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Who do you want to collaborate with more than anyone?

Obviously, Kendrick. If Drake was a better sport about stuff, then him. Tyler, The Creator. SZA. The Weeknd. All of them.

How do you come up with ideas?

I'm doing what everybody else is doing—scrolling through and seeing what people are talking about. But a lot of the things that I'm doing are retroactive, looking back to the 2010s.

Can you walk me through your creation process?

I use the Notes app for writing all the songs, and I use CapCut for editing all the songs. And I also use CapCut for all my original music as well — not building the beats because I have producers making the beats — but in the reference tracks that I'm making, I make all of that in CapCut.

I was expecting you to say Logic.

My producer, Demko, produces in Ableton, but I don't know how to use Ableton.

I do a crazy setup in my garage where I write the notes in my Notes app, and then I get my MacBook, and I get my headphones, and I get my phone. I bring that downstairs and get the file of the beat, send that to myself on the computer, send that file back to myself, play that in my headphones, and then I do the song over that. Send that back to myself, play that version on my laptop, and then I will respond to the thing that I just recorded.

What kind of headphones are you using when you do that over there?

I use over-the-ear Sony headphones.

I love how high-quality your headphones are, but you're editing in CapCut.

I'm running CapCut to the bone. CapCut will literally shut off numerous times while I'm working, and I'll get frustrated and then remind myself, "Wait, I am not doing things that are normal."

Do you save your work on a drive?

No.

I'm so scared for you.

I save my YouTube videos and long-form stuff on my drive. But for all the short-form videos, what I really love about TikTok, and just in general, is the fact that you can pop out a video at any point in time.

When did you realize that you could turn content creation into a full-time job?

I started doing content in 2020 and realized I could turn it into a job probably a year in, when I had around a million followers. Back then, if you had a million followers, you had to move to LA, so that's what I did.

Yeah, I've heard that's the law.

Yeah, it's in the privacy policy on TikTok. One million followers? You gotta move to LA.

Were you making money only through the Creator Fund?

Yeah, I was making money through the Creator Fund and brand deals.

What was your first brand deal?

What Do You Meme? They were my first major deal. I had done some smaller stuff where I got sent some free things, which was nice. But that was my first brand deal. They paid based on viewership, which made me enough money to move to LA.

Do you use AI at all in your content creation process?

None. I do not get involved.

Why not?

I don't like it. I'm just not an AI guy. It makes me uncomfortable. As AI continues to grow and becomes more part of society, I'm realizing I'm going to be like one of the old men who's just like, "I can't turn this into a PDF."


Be yourself and do the things that you find funny, not the stuff you find funny because you think it's gonna make you go viral.

Do you have any tips for creators who want to create viral content?

Be yourself. I know that is the cliche. There's never been a better example of being yourself than being online, because everybody that I know, and everybody that you know as well, is trying to feed into an algorithm to a point where it is not natural anymore. Be yourself and do the things that you find funny, not the stuff you find funny because you think it's gonna make you go viral.

Do you have any advice for people who are trying to combat the reality that it can be embarrassing?

Just keep going because sometimes videos aren't going to do well. The way that you scroll when you're online is that you're not checking like, "Oh, this video has only five likes. It must be bad." You don't care, you just scroll anyway. It doesn't matter. The most important thing to remember on the internet is that you're not the main character. If it doesn't do well, then who cares? Nobody saw it anyway. And if it does well, then great. Do more of that.

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Multiple porn sites sued by Florida attorney general

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Florida Attorney General James Uthmeier is suing several porn companies, according to a press release on Tuesday.

Uthmeier states that these porn sites aren't complying with Florida's age-verification law, which went into effect on Jan. 1. The law, HB 3, requires sites that publish a "substantial portion" of material that is "harmful to minors" to use a method to prove that visitors are over 18. HB 3 requires this method to keep personal information anonymous and be conducted by a nongovernmental, independent third party.

Florida's version of age verification is similar to that in other states, but some are more specific in that they require scanning a face or a government ID. These laws started to sprout up in states in 2022, beginning with Louisiana, and since then, free speech advocates and adult industry workers have told Mashable that the laws won't work for their intended purpose. A preliminary study out of NYU also suggests that age-verification laws don't work.

One reason is that they can be circumvented with software like VPNs, so visitors can pretend to be elsewhere. Another is that not every single website will comply.

Now, Uthmeier is suing companies that operate out of the Czech Republic, including the parent companies of XVideos and XNXX:

  • Webgroup Czech Republic (which operates XVideos)

  • NKL Associates (XNXX)

  • Sonesta Technologies, Inc. (BangBros)

  • Traffic F (an advertising network)

The AG is also suing GGW Group and GTFlix TV, distributors of GirlsGoneWild. The latter apparently also operates out of the Czech Republic.

The press release states that Uthmeier wrote two letters to two of the companies in April, demanding that they comply or face legal action.

"Multiple porn companies are flagrantly breaking Florida's age verification law by exposing children to harmful, explicit content. As a father of young children, and as Attorney General, this is completely unacceptable," Uthmeier stated in the press release. "We are taking legal action against these online pornographers who are willfully preying on the innocence of children for their financial gain."

When SCOTUS upheld Texas's age-verification law in June, experts told Mashable that it was a blow to free speech, as such laws quell adults' free speech, while also not actually stopping minors from accessing porn. Yet, these laws have also extended outside the U.S., as the UK has enacted age verification just last month. Already, internet users have found a way to bypass the law: using a photo of a video game character.

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Leaks may have revealed the iPhone 17 lineup release date

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According to leaked documents, Apple may be gearing up to unveil its iPhone 17 lineup — including the iPhone 17, 17 Air, and 17 Pro — on Sept. 9.

The rumor originates from iPhone-Ticker, a German blog, and was picked up by 9to5Mac, which reports that a local wireless carrier leaked internal documents pointing to an early September reveal.

While still unconfirmed, the date tracks with Apple’s usual playbook. The tech giant typically holds its iPhone launch events in the second week of September, excluding 2020, which was disrupted by COVID. The company also favors Tuesday announcements, though last year’s reveal was pushed due to the presidential debate.

If the leak holds true, we could be just weeks away from Apple’s next big drop.

This year, the spotlight is on the iPhone 17 Air, Apple’s rumored ultra-thin flagship measuring just 5.65mm thick. As Mashable’s Alex Perry put it, "that’s even thinner than a pencil."

Meanwhile, if you’ve been paying even casual attention to Apple leaks, most of the iPhone 17 and 17 Pro details are already out in the wild. One of the most eye-catching leaks is the new orange finish for the Pro models, which, to some (mostly me), is similar to the color scheme for the Charlotte Bobcats.

Aside from that, 9to5Mac notes that if the rumored Sept. 9 reveal date holds, Apple will likely stick to its usual rollout pattern—meaning pre-orders could open that Friday, Sept. 12, with the official launch landing a week later on Sept. 19.

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Delta and other airlines are working with an AI startup that personalizes prices

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Artificial intelligence may soon play a bigger role in your air travel fares.

Airlines are reportedly working with AI companies to deliver "personalized" prices to customers by using AI tools to analyze their personal information and data.

Delta Air Lines is currently using AI technology from the Israeli startup Fetcherr for some domestic flights, said President Glen Hauenstein in an earnings call last month. Hauenstein said the technology is still being tested, but told shareholders that Delta intends to expand its use of AI by the end of this year. As of now, the airline uses AI for only 3 percent of its domestic flight fares, but wants to increase this to 20 percent, according to ABC News.

However, in a recent letter to members of Congress, the company denied using AI tools to price-gouge customers, as Reuters reported last week.

Fetcherr is one of the prominent suppliers of AI-powered dynamic pricing, and it already works with several airlines, including Delta, Azul, Virgin Atlantic, WestJet, and Royal Air Maroc, according to Aviation Week. Delta has said it doesn't share personal customer data with Fetcherr.

But the airline has come under scrutiny for its rhetoric around using AI to optimize some fare prices. US lawmakers, including Democratic Arizona Senator Ruben Gallego, have accused Delta of "telling their investors one thing, and then turning around and telling the public another," said Gallego, who also said he believes Delta is engaging in "predatory pricing."

In a letter to Delta CEO Ed Bastian, Senators Gallego, Mark Warner, and Richard Blumenthal cited a comment made during an investor conference last December by Hauenstein, who said the company's AI price-setting technology sets fares by predicting "the amount people are willing to pay for the premium products related to the base fares."

"Consumers have no way of knowing what data and personal information your company and Fetcherr plan to collect or how the AI algorithm will be trained," reads the lawmakers' letter. The senators asked Delta to explain what data it collects and uses for its fares. Delta hasn't specified what data it relies on to set these individualized prices.

In response, the airline assured US Democratic senators that their ticket pricing "never takes into account personal data" but also spoke of the merits of using AI to set prices.

"Given the tens of millions of fares and hundreds of thousands of routes for sale at any given time, the use of new technology like AI promises to streamline the process by which we analyze existing data and the speed and scale at which we can respond to changing market dynamics," read Delta's letter to lawmakers.

While Delta insisted to US lawmakers that it’s not fixing prices with AI, recent revelations about Fetcherr raise serious questions about its technology.

Bloomberg reported this week on an alarming white paper by Fetcherr co-founder and chief AI officer Uri Yerushalmi. In the paper, Yerushalmi describes working with an unnamed airline to use artificial intelligence to create a pricing structure so complicated that it would “go beyond human cognitive limits,” according to Bloomberg.

So, even if AI isn’t used to “fix prices” in the traditional sense, it could still be used to make fare pricing so complex that consumers inadvertently end up paying more.

Rival airlines have also expressed concern. American Airlines CEO Robert Isom said using AI to set individualized fares could have an impact on consumer trust. He also said the strategy is not something AA would do.

Dynamic pricing has long been a part of the airline industry's strategy, but the use of AI has the potential to drastically change travel bookings. As airlines look to maximize revenue by harnessing AI, many policy experts fear consumers could face much higher prices, as expressed to The Lever. Another looming concern is that AI-powered pricing schemes can lead to price collusion between companies. Some, like Scott Keyes of Scott’s Cheap Flights, believe prices could actually be lowered, as he wrote in Time.

Last week, Democratic lawmakers Greg Casar and Rashida Tlaib introduced the Stop AI Price Gouging and Wage Fixing Act, a piece of legislation that would ban companies from using AI to fix prices or wages based on Americans' personal data. The lawmakers cited Delta's plans to increase their use of AI to set prices.

"Giant corporations should not be allowed to jack up your prices or lower your wages using data they got spying on you," said Congressman Casar in a statement. "Whether you know it or not, you may already be getting ripped off by corporations using your personal data to charge you more. This problem is only going to get worse, and Congress should act before this becomes a full blown crisis."

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